Comments on: WelfareCSM Day 3: Experimental Mobiles and Rainforest Birds http://www.downtempo.net/blog/agile-and-scrum/welfarecsm-day-3-experimental-mobiles-and-rainforest-birds/ Product, development, and design musings from your friends at Downtempo Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:07:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Catherine http://www.downtempo.net/blog/agile-and-scrum/welfarecsm-day-3-experimental-mobiles-and-rainforest-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-810 Catherine Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:25:03 +0000 http://www.downtempo.net/blog/?p=291#comment-810 Tobias' exercise reinforced the importance of the ScrumMaster’s role in coordinating, communicating, and pulling PO and team efforts together to develop a product that delights the customer. POs who communicate changing requirements clearly and timely, and work closely with the ScrumMaster(s) are valuable, as ours was. I also agree with Robi that we learned by doing, not talking. Actual work, along with the time boxing made for an effective Scrum simulation, since frequent failures quickly helped refine goals and contributed to the product's acceptance. Tobias' exercise reinforced the importance of the ScrumMaster’s role in coordinating, communicating, and pulling PO and team efforts together to develop a product that delights the customer. POs who communicate changing requirements clearly and timely, and work closely with the ScrumMaster(s) are valuable, as ours was. I also agree with Robi that we learned by doing, not talking. Actual work, along with the time boxing made for an effective Scrum simulation, since frequent failures quickly helped refine goals and contributed to the product's acceptance.

]]> By: Robi http://www.downtempo.net/blog/agile-and-scrum/welfarecsm-day-3-experimental-mobiles-and-rainforest-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-743 Robi Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:09:21 +0000 http://www.downtempo.net/blog/?p=291#comment-743 For me, two aspects are memorable take-aways (and, to be honest, I was a bit skeptical as we were getting started). 1. It highlighted the incredibly important role the product owner holds for the team. I say this, because in real life, it will not always be possible to have constant interface with the customer (If that was possible, who needs a PO, right?), but the team benefits from the continuous feedback and clarifications. The PO can/should take on that responsibility, when the customer is not accessible. 2. Making the first prototype(s), and having them reviewed and critiqued by the product owner and customer was INDEED powerful. And possibly more practical than spending countless cycles planning. Tobias deliberately pushed us toward "doing" rather than "talking about doing", and I think it was precisely to experience the rewards of the tangible, real feedback. Cheers, Robi For me, two aspects are memorable take-aways (and, to be honest, I was a bit skeptical as we were getting started).

1. It highlighted the incredibly important role the product owner holds for the team. I say this, because in real life, it will not always be possible to have constant interface with the customer (If that was possible, who needs a PO, right?), but the team benefits from the continuous feedback and clarifications. The PO can/should take on that responsibility, when the customer is not accessible.

2. Making the first prototype(s), and having them reviewed and critiqued by the product owner and customer was INDEED powerful. And possibly more practical than spending countless cycles planning. Tobias deliberately pushed us toward "doing" rather than "talking about doing", and I think it was precisely to experience the rewards of the tangible, real feedback.

Cheers, Robi

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]]> By: downtempo http://www.downtempo.net/blog/agile-and-scrum/welfarecsm-day-3-experimental-mobiles-and-rainforest-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-442 downtempo Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:24:05 +0000 http://www.downtempo.net/blog/?p=291#comment-442 Thanks Tobias! One of the thing that impressed me was how quickly the group self-organized productively. Each team focused nicely around their talents, and our PO was a definite rockstar. :)<br /><br /><br />Thanks again for another great perspective on the Scrum process. Hope we get a chance to work together again one day!<br /><br /><br />- andy Thanks Tobias! One of the thing that impressed me was how quickly the group self-organized productively. Each team focused nicely around their talents, and our PO was a definite rockstar. :)

Thanks again for another great perspective on the Scrum process. Hope we get a chance to work together again one day!

- andy

]]> By: Tobias Mayer http://www.downtempo.net/blog/agile-and-scrum/welfarecsm-day-3-experimental-mobiles-and-rainforest-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-441 Tobias Mayer Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:00:36 +0000 http://www.downtempo.net/blog/?p=291#comment-441 Hi Andy, Thanks for writing up this session. Yes, i was both chaotic and creative -- just like real Scrum, perhaps :-) I especially liked the way the design emerged over time, and how the development team offered me (the customer) ideas for features, e.g. the school of fish, that I hadn't envisioned when I came up with the design. It showed how teams working in collaboration with the customers provide the most satisfactory solutions. I also liked the way the teams figured out the whole Scrum-of-Scrums solutions as appropriate to the maturity of the product, without any guidance from me. And the POs idea to color-code themes for immediate visibility on the task board was also a neat touch. The final product now hangs in the nursery school next door to the church. A captioned slide show of my photographs is available here: <a href="http://bit.ly/7EP8MN" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/7EP8MN</a> Thanks to everyone who participated in theis experimental workshop. Tobias Hi Andy,

Thanks for writing up this session. Yes, i was both chaotic and creative — just like real Scrum, perhaps :-) I especially liked the way the design emerged over time, and how the development team offered me (the customer) ideas for features, e.g. the school of fish, that I hadn't envisioned when I came up with the design. It showed how teams working in collaboration with the customers provide the most satisfactory solutions. I also liked the way the teams figured out the whole Scrum-of-Scrums solutions as appropriate to the maturity of the product, without any guidance from me. And the POs idea to color-code themes for immediate visibility on the task board was also a neat touch.

The final product now hangs in the nursery school next door to the church. A captioned slide show of my photographs is available here: http://bit.ly/7EP8MN Thanks to everyone who participated in theis experimental workshop.

Tobias

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